Tech Tip: Quiet Down a Chirping Honda

Tech Tip: Quiet Down a Chirping Honda

A Honda owner may complain about a chirp coming from the lower timing belt area.

By Ed Dorowski, ALLDATA editor, and Jeff Webster, ALLDATA technical writer

A Honda owner may complain about a chirp coming from the lower timing belt area. The noise is most often noticed at idle, usually after the engine has warmed up. The probable cause is that the idler pulley mounting surface is tilted, causing the edge of the timing belt to rub against the side of the pulser flange on the drive pulley (gear). To correct the condition, install a taper shim kit, and grind a deeper relief on the engine mount bracket, if needed.

Applicable Models:
2005-’07 Accord V6*, Odyssey, Pilot and 2006-’07 Ridgeline
*The 2007 Accord V6 vehicles also require water pump replacement

2-door with M/T    1HGCM8…7A002002    1HGCM8…7A004104
2-door with A/T    1HGCM8…7A002029    1HGCM8…7A003983
4-door with M/T    1HGCM6…7A037354    1HGCM6…7A060259
4-door with A/T    1HGCM6…7A034807    1HGCM6…7A057992

Parts Information
Description            Part Numbers
Taper Shim Kit      2005 models: P/N 04148-RCA-305
                             2006-’07 models: P/N 04148-RCA-306(contains taper shim, timing belt and
                             timing belt drive pulley [gear])
Water Pump      2007 Accord V6 only: P/N 19200-RDM-A02

1. Remove the drive belt.

2. Start the engine.

Do you still hear the noise?
    YES – Go to Repair Procedure.
    NO – Reinstall the drive belt, then continue
    with normal troubleshooting procedures.

Repair Procedure
Note: On certain 2007 Accord V6 vehicles, you will also be replacing the water pump. All other non-water pump replacement steps apply to all affected vehicles.

1. Affected 2007 Accord V6 only: Drain the engine coolant into a clean container, and save it for reuse.

2. Set the engine to TDC (top dead center).

3. Remove the crankshaft pulley.

4. Remove the timing belt covers.

5. Unbolt the CKP (crankshaft position) sensor (if applicable), and set it aside. Do not disconnect the CKP harness connector.

6. Remove the timing belt.

7. Affected 2007 Accord V6 only: Remove the timing belt adjuster.

8. Affected 2007 Accord V6 only: Remove the water pump.

9. Remove the engine mount bracket.

10. Remove the timing belt idler pulley.

11. Try to insert a 0.95 mm feeler gauge between the top edge of the timing belt idler pulley and the back of the side engine mount bracket overhanging the pulley (Figure 1).
figure 1
• If you can insert the feeler gauge, go to step 13.

• If you can’t insert the feeler gauge, go to step 12.

Note: Remove the feeler gauge from its holder to get a more accurate measurement.

12. Use a die grinder with a 2”, 50 grit grinding disc (or equivalent) to remove material for clearance on the side engine mount bracket. Use the engine mount bracket circular casting offset as a guide for grinding until the lip measures 2 mm thick with a caliper or micrometer (Figure 2).
figure 2
13. Affected 2007 Accord V6 only: Replace the water pump, and reuse the coolant you removed in step 1.

14. Affected 2007 Accord V6 only: Reinstall the timing belt adjuster.

15. Place the idler pulley shim between the idler pulley and the oil pump housing, and loosely install the idler pulley bolt (Figure 3) with Hondalock 1 or equivalent thread-locking compound (P/N 08713-0001) applied to its threads. Be sure to follow the use instructions on the container of the thread-locking compound.
figure 3
Note: The shim tapers from left to right. The word “OUT” is painted in white and stamped into the tang of the shim, and should be readable when the shim is installed.

16. When tightening the idler pulley bolt, use the square end of a 1/4” drive ratchet extension to keep the shim’s tab in the correct position. After you tighten the idler pulley bolt to 33 lb.-ft. (44 Nm), bend the shim’s tab slightly toward the oil pump housing to keep it away from the idler pulley (see Figure 4).
figure 4
17. Install a new timing belt drive (gear) pulley (see Figure 5).
Figure 5
18. Install a new timing belt.

19. Reinstall the CKP sensor (if applicable), and torque its bolt to (7.2 lb.-ft.) 9.8 Nm.

20. Reassemble the remaining parts using the appropriate service manual procedures. If you replaced the water pump, make sure you bleed any air from the cooling system after refilling with the coolant you drained in step 1.

21. Test-drive the vehicle to verify the repair.

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